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wolfscar 08-03-2009 04:16 PM

Strange noise at 45mph
 
Hi there. Just recently I've started getting a noise just like grinding metal - like a blade being held against a sharpening wheel - at exactly 45 mph. It stops when I go beyond or beneath 45mph. Very strange.

Any ideas?

turbopass0208 08-04-2009 03:17 PM

do you have any idea a general location of where the sound is coing from? Could be many possiblites.

wolfscar 08-05-2009 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by turbopass0208 (Post 26297)
do you have any idea a general location of where the sound is coing from? Could be many possiblites.

It's hard to pinpoint exactly because it only happens when I'm moving at 45mph - so I can't open it up to see, but it does seem to be coming from the engine well down in the right hand section (as you look at the engine with the hood up). That's how it sounds when the windows are closed, which would put the problem on the opposite side to the air filter and timing belts. As I say though - it's really hard to pinpoint while I'm driving.

One other thing - it happens regardless of whether I'm coasting or driving and whether I'm speeding up or slowing down. Always exactly at 45mph.

Thankyou for having a think about this. I appreciate it.

turbopass0208 08-05-2009 04:03 PM

ok sounds like it coud be a doozy:( what year passat and model do you have?

wolfscar 08-06-2009 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by turbopass0208 (Post 26308)
ok sounds like it coud be a doozy:( what year passat and model do you have?

It's a 1994 cl saloon. I took my wife out with me yesterday to try to pin down the location of the noise and it seems to be coming from the middle of the engine well. It sounded like the right from my side, from the left from her side, so when she got up close to it she said it was coming from the middle.

It also makes the same sound, only much quieter, at about 63mph. It's really loud at 45mph though.

Does that sound like a drive shaft issue to you? Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated because I'm nonplussed at present.

turbopass0208 08-06-2009 04:30 PM

Its possible that could be the issue. Or, there could be something wrong with another suspension component that is making it vibrate through the driveshaft and back under the hood. I had somewhat of a similar noise on a relitives car but it was a ford taurus and I replaced the wheel bearning and it was gone. I would pu the car up on jackstands and see if you can grab the tire from top to bottom and try to wiggle it. If there is play then that could be the issue. If you do this from side to side then it could be a tie rod end that is worn out. If you remove the tire, you can grab the drive shaft and, it will have some play in it but, if you notice excessive play it should be replaced. Hope this helps.

wolfscar 08-07-2009 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by turbopass0208 (Post 26334)
Its possible that could be the issue. Or, there could be something wrong with another suspension component that is making it vibrate through the driveshaft and back under the hood. I had somewhat of a similar noise on a relitives car but it was a ford taurus and I replaced the wheel bearning and it was gone. I would pu the car up on jackstands and see if you can grab the tire from top to bottom and try to wiggle it. If there is play then that could be the issue. If you do this from side to side then it could be a tie rod end that is worn out. If you remove the tire, you can grab the drive shaft and, it will have some play in it but, if you notice excessive play it should be replaced. Hope this helps.

I'll definitely check that out. Thankyou for the input! :)

leftlanedave 08-07-2009 08:17 PM

When the car is makeing this noise and you move the steering wheel left or right will the noise change ?? if so the right wheel bearing is bad ..more than likely..

wolfscar 08-08-2009 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by leftlanedave (Post 26362)
When the car is makeing this noise and you move the steering wheel left or right will the noise change ?? if so the right wheel bearing is bad ..more than likely..

It doesn't seem to change when turning, although there is another loud vibrating noise that's started recently that gets louder the faster I go - that one lessens a bit if I'm turning hard left.

The new noise sounds like I've got the car in too low a gear, but it seems to be coming from the rear of the vehicle and happens whether I'm in gear or not.

:confused: :mad: :confused:

I'm starting to think that this is all connected to the rear suspension or bearings. Last time I was out, when I went over a bad bump the rear end got a little squirrelly. Like I was being blown around by strong winds. I need to replace the rear bearings, don't I?

wolfscar 08-09-2009 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by turbopass0208 (Post 26334)
Its possible that could be the issue. Or, there could be something wrong with another suspension component that is making it vibrate through the driveshaft and back under the hood. I had somewhat of a similar noise on a relitives car but it was a ford taurus and I replaced the wheel bearning and it was gone. I would pu the car up on jackstands and see if you can grab the tire from top to bottom and try to wiggle it. If there is play then that could be the issue. If you do this from side to side then it could be a tie rod end that is worn out. If you remove the tire, you can grab the drive shaft and, it will have some play in it but, if you notice excessive play it should be replaced. Hope this helps.

Yep - the rear right hand wheel has a little give top to bottom. Also, the suspension creaked alarmingly and made a slightly squelchy noise both when I lifted it up and put it back down. I think I need to take the car to a VW mechanic.

turbopass0208 08-12-2009 03:50 PM

Sounds like possibly wheel bearings and new shocks. When it get "loose" like that after hitting bumps, as if you were being blown around by wind, then i would say the suspension for sure needs to be gone through. Bushing, bearings, and shocks. In the front you could do the samething and replace the ball joints and tie rods also. I would by all of the components myself from ecstuning.com and take them to the mechanic that you wnat to have the work done by. This will save you some money, get what you want, and no tlet the mechanic rip you off for the price of sub-par parts.

wolfscar 08-20-2009 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by turbopass0208 (Post 26451)
Sounds like possibly wheel bearings and new shocks.

I was thinking about changing the rear wheel bearing myself. How difficult a job is that? I'm good with my hands but have very little car maintenance experience. I've basically checked levels and belts and changed tires, but that's pretty much it.

Could really do with saving the cash on a mechanic, but I need to get this fixed before my wheel comes off out on the road. Would value your opinion on this.

Thanks again.

turbopass0208 08-20-2009 12:53 PM

We all love doing things ourselves to save some money. Wheel bearings are not usually a hard thing to do but can become frusterating to try to get apart very quickly. I have not worked on this model in particularly, but you may need a bearing puller and have to remove lower ball joints to get it out. I would recommend getting a repair manual from the local auto store and taking a look at it before you just start on it. It is a small investment of usually about $20 and can save you valueable time and headaches. It will also provide step by step instuctions on how to do the job. Good Luck


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