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Muradov1 06-14-2013 06:10 PM

2010 TDI "Keys not in Range"
 
I have a TDI with 57K miles on it and it has been fixed after a recent accident. When I turn on the car, it starts for a second and then turns off. It gives the message "Keys Not in Range." But my keys work just fine. Anyone have any ideas on why this would happen?

Keithuk 06-14-2013 07:42 PM

Well your made 12 posts and I must have asked you before. https://volkswagenforum.com/forum/ne...gnature-34185/

Get your car scanned for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them.

Muradov1 06-19-2013 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Keithuk (Post 60415)
Well your made 12 posts and I must have asked you before. https://volkswagenforum.com/forum/ne...gnature-34185/

Get your car scanned for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them.

Sorry I have multiple cars and I'll try to get the signature in soon.

Anyway, the fault code for this is 05488. The description reads, "P1570 Engine Control Module Disabled"

Keithuk 06-19-2013 07:12 PM

VAG Error Code: 17978
EOBD II Error Code: P1570

Fault Location:
Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer

Possible Cause:
Engine starting but stalling immediately.

Key(s) not matched.
Incorrectly coded.
Instrument Cluster not matched.

Engine Control Module (ECM) not matched.
Engine Control Module (ECM) Power Supply faulty.


Possible Solutions:
Check for Fault Codes in Immobilizer itself (part of Instrument Cluster in many cars, but separate Immobilizer Control Module in some).
Check Immobilizer Measuring Values (usually in Instrument Cluster OR Immobilizer Control Module).

Match Key(s)/Instrument Cluster/Engine Control Unit (ECU)
Check Engine Control Module (ECM) Power Supply (Relay).


Special Notes:
In case of Engine Starting Issues please make sure that you are really experience an Immobilizer related Problem! Even if the Immobilizer engages, the Engine will still start fine but cut out after 2-3 Seconds. If you are NOT experiencing this behavior (e.g. Engine doesn't start at all) your Problem is very likely NOT Immobilizer related.
May be stored in Combination with 01176 - Key: Signal too Low in Immobilizer Control Module.

If no other immobilizer related fault codes are stored and the immobilizer related measuring blocks are fine except Engine Start not allowed, in rare occasions it helps to try cold-booting the car. Remove both battery cables from the battery. Short the battery cables together (away from the battery) for about 15 seconds. Reconnect the battery. (Example.)
Low battery voltage (including a faulty battery) may cause Immobilizer system malfunctions and testing should be done only with a known good battery installed.




Muradov1 06-28-2013 01:00 PM

Hey thanks for the help! I had the dealer reporgram the keys for $85 and it worked! Thanks again!


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